Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: New Living Translation But before they were born, before they had done anything good or bad, she received a message from God. (This message shows that God chooses people according to his own purposes; English Standard Version though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— Berean Standard Bible Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God’s plan of election might stand, Berean Literal Bible for they not yet having been born nor having done anything good or evil, so that the purpose of God according to election might stand, King James Bible (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) New King James Version (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), New American Standard Bible for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, NASB 1995 for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, NASB 1977 for though the twins were not yet born, and had not done anything good or bad, in order that God’s purpose according to His choice might stand, not because of works, but because of Him who calls, Legacy Standard Bible for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that the purpose of God according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, Amplified Bible and though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything either good or bad, so that God’s purpose [His choice, His election] would stand, not because of works [done by either child], but because of [the plan of] Him who calls them, Christian Standard Bible For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand — Holman Christian Standard Bible For though her sons had not been born yet or done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to election might stand— American Standard Version for the children being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, Aramaic Bible in Plain English Before her children were to be born or would do good or evil, the choice of God was revealed beforehand that this would stand not by works, but by him who called. Douay-Rheims Bible For when the children were not yet born, nor had done any good or evil (that the purpose of God, according to election, might stand,) English Revised Version for the children being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, GOD'S WORD® Translation Before the children had been born or had done anything good or bad, Rebekah was told that the older child would serve the younger one. This was said to Rebekah so that God's plan would remain a matter of his choice, International Standard Version Yet before their children had been born or had done anything good or bad (so that God's plan of election might continue to operate Literal Standard Version (for they being not yet born, neither having done anything good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to [divine] selection, might remain; not of works, but of Him who is calling), Majority Standard Bible Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or evil, in order that God’s plan of election might stand, New American Bible before they had yet been born or had done anything, good or bad, in order that God’s elective plan might continue, NET Bible even before they were born or had done anything good or bad (so that God's purpose in election would stand, not by works but by his calling)-- New Revised Standard Version Even before they had been born or had done anything good or bad (so that God’s purpose of election might continue, New Heart English Bible For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, Webster's Bible Translation (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth) Weymouth New Testament and even then, though they were not then born and had not done anything either good or evil, yet in order that God's electing purpose might not be frustrated, based, as it was, not on their actions but on the will of Him who called them, she was told, World English Bible For being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him who calls, Young's Literal Translation (for they being not yet born, neither having done anything good or evil, that the purpose of God, according to choice, might remain; not of works, but of Him who is calling,) it was said to her -- Additional Translations ... Audio Bible Context God's Sovereign Choice…10Not only that, but Rebecca’s children were conceived by one man, our father Isaac. 11Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God’s plan of election might stand, 12not by works but by Him who calls, she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”… Cross References Romans 4:17 As it is written: "I have made you a father of many nations." He is our father in the presence of God, in whom he believed, the God who gives life to the dead and calls into being what does not yet exist. Romans 8:28 And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose. Ephesians 1:11 In Him we were also chosen as God's own, having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything by the counsel of His will, Treasury of Scripture (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calls;) the children. Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. that the. Romans 8:28-30 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose… Isaiah 14:24,26,27 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand: … Isaiah 23:9 The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth. according. Romans 11:5,7 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace… Ephesians 1:4,5 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: … 1 Thessalonians 1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. not of works. Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; but of. Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 1 Thessalonians 2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory. 2 Thessalonians 2:13,14 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: … Jump to Previous Abide Actions Bad Based Born Calls Children Continue Effected Either Election Evil Frustrated God's Good Indeed Order Purpose Selection Stand Works WorthlessJump to Next Abide Actions Bad Based Born Calls Children Continue Effected Either Election Evil Frustrated God's Good Indeed Order Purpose Selection Stand Works WorthlessRomans 9 1. Paul is sorry for the Jews.7. All of Abraham not of the promise. 18. God's sovereignty. 25. The calling of the Gentiles and rejecting of the Jews, foretold. 32. The cause of their stumbling. Verses 11-13. - For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election (i.e. the principle of his electing to privileges of his own good will and purpose, and not on the ground of any fancied human claims) might stand (μένῃ, i.e. should remain in force, ever applicable), not of works, but of him that calleth; it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger (Genesis 25:23). As it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated (Malachi 1:2, 3). It is here to be carefully observed that, though Jacob and Esau were individuals, yet it is not as such, but as the progenitors and representatives of races, that they are here spoken cf. So it was, too, in both the passages quoted from the Old Testament. In Genesis 25:23 the words are, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger." In Malachi 1:2 the prophet's entire drift is to set forth the Divine favour shown, from the first and still, to the race of Israel as compared with the race of Edom. Hence, as well as from the purport of the chapter as announced at its beginning, it is evident that the subject of individual predestination does not really come in, as it did in ch. 8, but only that of nations or races of men to a position of privilege as inheritors of promises. It will be seen, also, as we go on, that the introduction in illustration of the case of the individual Pharaoh does not really affect the drift of the chapter as above explained. The strong expression, "Esau I hated" (applicable, as shown above, not to the individual Esau, but to the race of Edom) is capable of being explained as meaning, "I excluded him from the love I showed to Israel." The evidence of such alleged hatred the prophet expresses thus: "and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness;" whereas Israel, it is implied, had been protected from such desolation. As to the necessary force of the word in the Hebrew (שכא), we may compare Genesis 29:30, 31, where in ver. 30 it is said that Jacob loved Rachel more than Leah, and in ver. 31, as meaning the same thing, that Leah was hated; and Deuteronomy 21:15, "If a man have two wives, one beloved and another hated." In both these passages the same verb is used as in Malachi, and need not, in either case, mean more than disregarding one in comparison with another who is loved. For the use, in the New Testament, of the Greek word μισεῖν in a sense for the expression of which our English "to hate," in its usual acceptation, is evidently too strong, cf. Luke 14:26 (to be compared with Matthew 10:37) and John 12:25; so also, though not so distinctly, Matthew 6:24 and Luke 16:13. It is, moreover, not improbable that the Prophet Malachi, in his patriotic ardour, had in his mind the idea of wrath against the race of Edom on the part of the LORD, as "the people," as he afterwards says, "against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever." But even so, the glowing language of prophets need not be taken as dogmatic assertion; and certainly not as binding us to believe that any race of men is, in the literal sense of the expression, hated of Cod. Such a view is in evident contradiction to the general teaching of Scripture, and notably so to that of St. Paul, who has so emphatically declared that God "made of one blood all nations of men," and is One to all. Parallel Commentaries ... Greek Yetγὰρ (gar) Conjunction Strong's 1063: For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason. before [the twins] μήπω (mēpō) Adverb Strong's 3380: Not yet. From me and po; not yet. were born γεννηθέντων (gennēthentōn) Verb - Aorist Participle Passive - Genitive Masculine Plural Strong's 1080: From a variation of genos; to procreate; figuratively, to regenerate. [or] μηδὲ (mēde) Conjunction Strong's 3366: And not, not even, neither�nor. From me and de; but not, not even; in a continued negation, nor. had done πραξάντων (praxantōn) Verb - Aorist Participle Active - Genitive Masculine Plural Strong's 4238: To do, perform, accomplish; be in any condition, i.e. I fare; I exact, require. anything τι (ti) Interrogative / Indefinite Pronoun - Accusative Neuter Singular Strong's 5100: Any one, some one, a certain one or thing. An enclitic indefinite pronoun; some or any person or object. good ἀγαθὸν (agathon) Adjective - Accusative Neuter Singular Strong's 18: A primary word; 'good'. or ἢ (ē) Conjunction Strong's 2228: Or, than. A primary particle of distinction between two connected terms; disjunctive, or; comparative, than. bad, φαῦλον (phaulon) Adjective - Accusative Neuter Singular Strong's 5337: Worthless, wicked, base. Apparently a primary word; 'foul' or 'flawy', i.e. wicked. in order that ἵνα (hina) Conjunction Strong's 2443: In order that, so that. Probably from the same as the former part of heautou; in order that. God’s Θεοῦ (Theou) Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular Strong's 2316: A deity, especially the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very. plan πρόθεσις (prothesis) Noun - Nominative Feminine Singular Strong's 4286: From protithemai; a setting forth, i.e. proposal; specially, the show-bread as exposed before God. of κατ’ (kat’) Preposition Strong's 2596: A primary particle; down, in varied relations (genitive, dative or accusative) with which it is joined). election ἐκλογὴν (eklogēn) Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular Strong's 1589: A choosing out, selecting, choice (by God). From eklegomai; selection. might stand, μένῃ (menē) Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 3rd Person Singular Strong's 3306: To remain, abide, stay, wait; with acc: I wait for, await. A primary verb; to stay. 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