Daniel 8:13
New International Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the LORD’s people?”

New Living Translation
Then I heard two holy ones talking to each other. One of them asked, “How long will the events of this vision last? How long will the rebellion that causes desecration stop the daily sacrifices? How long will the Temple and heaven’s army be trampled on?”

English Standard Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one who spoke, “For how long is the vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled underfoot?”

Berean Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long until the fulfillment of the vision of the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host to be trampled?”

King James Bible
Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

New King James Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who was speaking, “How long will the vision be, concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation, the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot?”

New American Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that particular one who was speaking, “How long will the vision about the regular sacrifice apply, while the offense causes horror, so as to allow both the sanctuary and the army to be trampled?”

NASB 1995
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that particular one who was speaking, “How long will the vision about the regular sacrifice apply, while the transgression causes horror, so as to allow both the holy place and the host to be trampled?”

NASB 1977
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that particular one who was speaking, “How long will the vision about the regular sacrifice apply, while the transgression causes horror, so as to allow both the holy place and the host to be trampled?”

Legacy Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to that particular one who was speaking, “How long will the vision about the regular sacrifice apply, while the transgression causes desolation, so as to allow both the holy place and the host to be trampled?”

Amplified Bible
Then I heard a holy one (angel) speaking, and another holy one said to the one who was speaking, “How much time will be required to complete the vision regarding the regular sacrifice, the transgression that brings horror, and the trampling underfoot of both the sanctuary and the host [of the people]?”

Christian Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the speaker, “How long will the events of this vision last —the regular sacrifice, the rebellion that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and of the army to be trampled? ”

Holman Christian Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the speaker, “How long will the events of this vision last—the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and of the host to be trampled?”

American Standard Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that maketh desolate, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

Contemporary English Version
Then one of the holy angels asked another, "When will the daily sacrifices be offered again? What about this horrible rebellion? When will the temple and heaven's army no longer be trampled in the dust?"

English Revised Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt offering, and the transgression that maketh desolate, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then I heard a holy one speaking. Another holy one said to the one who was speaking, "How long will the things in this vision-the daily burnt offering, the destructive rebellion, the surrender of the holy place, and the trampling of the army-take place?"

Good News Translation
Then I heard one angel ask another, "How long will these things that were seen in the vision continue? How long will an awful sin replace the daily sacrifices? How long will the army of heaven and the Temple be trampled on?"

International Standard Version
"Then I heard one holy person speaking, and another holy person addressed the one who was speaking: 'In the vision about the regular burnt offering, how much time elapses while the desecration terrifies and both the Holy Place and the Heavenly Army are trampled?'

Majority Standard Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, ?How long until the fulfillment of the vision of the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host to be trampled??

NET Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking. Another holy one said to the one who was speaking, "To what period of time does the vision pertain--this vision concerning the daily sacrifice and the destructive act of rebellion and the giving over of both the sanctuary and army to be trampled?"

New Heart English Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who spoke, "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression that makes desolate, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled?"

Webster's Bible Translation
Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to that certain saint who spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

World English Bible
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who spoke, “How long will the vision about the continual burnt offering, and the disobedience that makes desolate, to give both the sanctuary and the army to be trodden under foot be?”
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And I hear a certain holy one speaking, and a certain holy one says to the wonderful numberer who is speaking: Until when [is] the vision of the continual [sacrifice], and of the transgression, an astonishment, to make a treading down of both sanctuary and host?

Young's Literal Translation
And I hear a certain holy one speaking, and a certain holy one saith to the wonderful numberer who is speaking: Till when is the vision of the continual sacrifice, and of the transgression, an astonishment, to make both sanctuary and host a treading down?

Smith's Literal Translation
And I shall hear one holy one speaking, and one holy one will say to a certain one, speaking, How long the vision of the continuance, and the transgression laying waste, to be? and the holy place and the army being trodden down?
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
And I heard one of the saints speaking, and one saint said to another, I know not to whom that was speaking: How long shall be the vision, concerning the continual sacrifice, and the sin of the desolation that is made: and the sanctuary, and the strength be trodden under foot?

Catholic Public Domain Version
And I heard one of the holy ones speaking, and one saint said to another, (I know not to whom he was speaking,) “What is the extent of the vision, and the continual sacrifice, and the sin of the desolation, which has happened, and of the sanctuary and the strength, which will be trampled?”

New American Bible
I heard a holy one speaking, and another said to whichever one it was that spoke, “How long shall the events of this vision last concerning the daily sacrifice, the desolating sin, the giving over of the sanctuary and the host for trampling?”

New Revised Standard Version
Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one that spoke, “For how long is this vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled?”
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
Then I heard a saint speaking, and another saint said to that certain saint who spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the continual sacrifice, and how soon will the iniquity and corruption be over and the holy thing and host be trodden under foot?

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
And I heard one Holy One who spoke, and another Holy One said to the one who spoke: “How long is the vision of the faith and the evil and the corruption to be finished, and holiness and the host will be trodden down?”
OT Translations
JPS Tanakh 1917
Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said unto that certain one who spoke: 'How long shall be the vision concerning the continual burnt-offering, and the transgression that causes appalment, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?'

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And I heard one saint speaking, and a saint said to a certain one speaking, How long shall the vision continue, even the removal of the sacrifice, and the bringing in of the sin of desolation; and how long shall the sanctuary and host be trampled?

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Context
Daniel's Vision of the Ram and the Goat
12And in the rebellion, the host and the daily sacrifice were given over to the horn, and it flung truth to the ground and prospered in whatever it did. 13Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long until the fulfillment of the vision of the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host to be trampled?” 14He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be properly restored.”…

Cross References
Revelation 11:2-3
But exclude the courtyard outside the temple. Do not measure it, because it has been given over to the nations, and they will trample the holy city for 42 months. / And I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

Revelation 12:6
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where God had prepared a place for her to be nourished for 1,260 days.

Revelation 13:5-7
The beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant and blasphemous words, and authority to act for 42 months. / And the beast opened its mouth to speak blasphemies against God and to slander His name and His tabernacle—those who dwell in heaven. / Then the beast was permitted to wage war against the saints and to conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation.

Matthew 24:15
So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand),

Revelation 6:9-11
And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. / And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge those who dwell upon the earth and avenge our blood?” / Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed.

Revelation 17:6
I could see that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and witnesses for Jesus. And I was utterly amazed at the sight of her.

Revelation 19:2
For His judgments are true and just. He has judged the great prostitute who corrupted the earth with her immorality. He has avenged the blood of His servants that was poured out by her hand.”

Matthew 24:21
For at that time there will be great tribulation, unseen from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again.

Revelation 7:14
“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 14:12
Here is a call for the perseverance of the saints, who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Daniel 12:11
And from the time the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation set up, there will be 1,290 days.

Daniel 9:27
And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.”

Daniel 11:31
His forces will rise up and desecrate the temple fortress. They will abolish the daily sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation.

Zechariah 1:12
Then the angel of the LORD said, “How long, O LORD of Hosts, will You withhold mercy from Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with which You have been angry these seventy years?”

Isaiah 63:18
For a short while Your people possessed Your holy place, but our enemies have trampled Your sanctuary.


Treasury of Scripture

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to that certain saint which spoke, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

one saint.

Daniel 4:13
I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;

Daniel 7:16
I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.

Daniel 12:5,6
Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river…

that certain saint.

Judges 13:18
And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Matthew 11:27
All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

How.

Daniel 12:6
And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

Psalm 74:9
We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.

Psalm 79:5
How long, LORD? wilt thou be angry for ever? shall thy jealousy burn like fire?

the vision.

Daniel 8:11,12
Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down…

and the.

Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 11:31
And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.

Daniel 12:11
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

of desolation.

Daniel 7:23
Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

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Daniel 8
1. Daniel's vision of the ram and he goat.
13. The two thousand three hundred days of the suspension of the daily sacrifice.
15. Gabriel comforts Daniel, and interprets the vision.














Then I heard
The phrase "Then I heard" indicates a transition in Daniel's vision, where he moves from seeing to hearing. This shift emphasizes the importance of the message that follows. In the Hebrew text, the verb "heard" (שָׁמַע, shama) implies not just the act of hearing but also understanding and perceiving. This suggests that Daniel is not merely a passive observer but is actively engaged in comprehending the divine revelation being presented to him.

a holy one speaking
The term "holy one" (קָדוֹשׁ, qadosh) refers to a celestial being, likely an angel, given the context of the vision. In the biblical narrative, angels are often messengers of God, conveying His will and purposes. The presence of a "holy one" underscores the sacredness and divine origin of the message. This aligns with the conservative Christian view that God uses His heavenly hosts to communicate with humanity, ensuring that His plans are revealed and understood.

and another holy one said to him
The introduction of "another holy one" speaking to the first suggests a dialogue between celestial beings. This interaction highlights the communal nature of the heavenly realm, where angels work in concert to fulfill God's purposes. The Hebrew word for "said" (אָמַר, amar) is often used in Scripture to denote authoritative speech, indicating that the message being conveyed is of great significance and should be heeded.

How long
The question "How long" reflects a common biblical theme of seeking understanding about the duration of suffering or divine judgment. This phrase resonates with the cries of the faithful throughout Scripture who yearn for God's intervention and the restoration of righteousness. It echoes the human desire for hope and assurance that God is in control and that His justice will ultimately prevail.

will the vision of the daily sacrifice
The "vision of the daily sacrifice" refers to the regular offerings made in the temple, which were central to Jewish worship and covenant relationship with God. The Hebrew term for "daily" (תָּמִיד, tamid) signifies continuity and constancy, emphasizing the importance of these sacrifices in maintaining spiritual order and connection with God. The disruption of this practice symbolizes a profound spiritual crisis and a direct challenge to divine authority.

the rebellion that causes desolation
This phrase describes a significant act of defiance against God, resulting in desolation or devastation. The "rebellion" (פֶּשַׁע, pesha) implies a deliberate and willful transgression, often associated with idolatry or apostasy. The "desolation" (שֹׁמֵם, shomem) suggests a state of ruin and abandonment, highlighting the severe consequences of turning away from God. This serves as a warning of the destructive power of sin and the need for repentance and faithfulness.

and the surrender of the sanctuary
The "surrender of the sanctuary" indicates the loss of control over the holy place, which was the center of Jewish worship and identity. The Hebrew word for "surrender" (נָתַן, natan) can also mean "to give" or "to deliver," suggesting that this is not merely a passive loss but an active handing over, possibly due to divine judgment. This reflects the theme of God's sovereignty, where even in times of trial, His purposes are being fulfilled.

and of the host to be trampled
The "host" refers to the people of God, who are depicted as being "trampled," a metaphor for oppression and persecution. The imagery of trampling (רָמַס, ramas) conveys a sense of violence and humiliation, yet it also points to the resilience and ultimate vindication of God's people. This phrase serves as a reminder of the trials faced by the faithful and the assurance that God will ultimately deliver and restore His people.

(13) One saint--i.e., an angel, who, however, has not been mentioned before. This part of the vision recalls Daniel 7:16. It is implied that the angels were conversing upon the subject of this awful revelation concerning the future of God's people. Only a portion of what they said is here recorded.

The vision.--The inquiry means, "How long shall be the duration of the object of this vision, so far as it has to do with the great apostasy?"

Transgression of desolation.--Comp. Daniel 9:27. Probably these words mean the same as the "abomination that maketh desolate" (Daniel 11:31; Daniel 12:11; see 1 Maccabees 1:59). . . .

Verse 13. - Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? Our Authorized rendering is clearly mistaken; it ought not to be "saint," but "holy one," as in the Revised Version. The versions leave palmoni, "a certain one," untranslated. Fust's suggestion, held also by Behrmann, is that this is a contraction for paloni almoni. The renderings of the versions are worthy of note. The LXX., "And I heard one holy one speaking, and another holy one said to Phehnouni who spoke, How long shall the vision stand, and the removed sacrifice, and the sin of desolation given, and the holy place be desolate to be trodden underfoot (εἰς καταπάτημα)?" Here the word στήσεται, "shall stand," is supposed by Professor Bevan to be an addition by one who did not fully comprehend the sentence. Following Gratz, Professor Bevan suggests a word, מוּרָם (mooram), "removed," to explain the presence of ἡ ἀρθεῖσα - a suggestion that appears well-founded. His further suggestion, that sim (שִׂם), "to set up," has been read instead of shomaym (שֹׁמֵם), must be due to inattention to the Greek. In it there is nothing about "set up," unless he transfers στήσεται from its place in the beginning of the sentence to the middle, and changes it to the active voice. Equally extraordinary is the suggestion that the translators read יצבא, instead of וצבא. The truth is, the introduction of ἐρημωθήσεται is probably due to a gloss or a confluence of readings. Theodotion is in close agreement with the Septuagint, save in the last clause, which he renders, "And the sanctuary and the power be trodden underfoot." The Peshitta is closer to the Massoretic, "And I heard a holy one who spake, and a holy one said to palmoni, who spake, When shall the vision of the perpetuity (daily sacrifice?), and of sin and of corruption be completed, and the holy place and the host be trodden underfoot?" The translators must have read shahata instead of shomaym. "Completed," nesh-tlem, may have been added, as στήσεται in the Greek, but the fact that all the versions have a word not represented in the Massoretic would indicate the probability that something has dropped out. Some part of the verb שׂוּם is suggested by the Greek Version, whereas some portion of שָׁלַם is suggested by the Peshitta. Daniel hears one of those watching angels who desire to look into the evolution of the Divine purpose concerning man and his salvation, asking another, "How long shall be the desolation of Jerusalem under Epiphanes?" The irregular construction here suggests corruption. We would render the speech of the angel, "How long - the vision, the sacrifice - the sin of desolation to give the sanctuary and the service to be trodden underfoot?" as if Daniel had only heard snatches of what was said; we would, we may say, omit the "and" before "sanctuary." The Septuagint translators may have omitted צָבָא (tzaba), thinking only of its ordinary meaning, "host," forgetful of the fact that it is used of the temple service in Numbers 4:23. These angels are most interested in the length of time that the sanctuary shall remain desolate. This may indicate that it was evident, from the vision, that the period of desolation was a limited one. The scene presented to the imagination is striking. The seer, as he gazes on the vision appearing to him over the marsh at Susa, hears angelic voices that direct attention to what was most important to him and to his people. To the Israelites of the period of the Maccabees, the length of time that the temple service would be in abeyance was of the highest importance. It was well that they should know that the time was shortened for the elect's sake.

Parallel Commentaries ...


Hebrew
Then I heard
וָאֶשְׁמְעָ֥ה (wā·’eš·mə·‘āh)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - first person common singular | third person feminine singular
Strong's 8085: To hear intelligently

a
אֶֽחָד־ (’e·ḥāḏ-)
Number - masculine singular
Strong's 259: United, one, first

holy one
קָד֖וֹשׁ (qā·ḏō·wōš)
Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 6918: Sacred, God, an angel, a saint, a sanctuary

speaking,
מְדַבֵּ֑ר (mə·ḏab·bêr)
Verb - Piel - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 1696: To arrange, to speak, to subdue

and another
אֶחָ֨ד (’e·ḥāḏ)
Number - masculine singular
Strong's 259: United, one, first

holy
קָד֜וֹשׁ (qā·ḏō·wōš)
Adjective - masculine singular
Strong's 6918: Sacred, God, an angel, a saint, a sanctuary

one said
וַיֹּאמֶר֩ (way·yō·mer)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 559: To utter, say

to [him],
הַֽמְדַבֵּ֗ר (ham·ḏab·bêr)
Article | Verb - Piel - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 1696: To arrange, to speak, to subdue

“How
עַד־ (‘aḏ-)
Preposition
Strong's 5704: As far as, even to, up to, until, while

long [until the fulfillment of]
מָתַ֞י (mā·ṯay)
Interrogative
Strong's 4970: Extent, when

the vision
הֶחָז֤וֹן (he·ḥā·zō·wn)
Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 2377: A sight, a dream, revelation, oracle

of the daily sacrifice,
הַתָּמִיד֙ (hat·tā·mîḏ)
Article | Adverb
Strong's 8548: Continuance, constant, ellipt, the regular, sacrifice

the rebellion
וְהַפֶּ֣שַׁע (wə·hap·pe·ša‘)
Conjunctive waw, Article | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 6588: Transgression

that causes desolation,
שֹׁמֵ֔ם (šō·mêm)
Verb - Qal - Participle - masculine singular
Strong's 8074: To stun, devastate, stupefy

and the surrender
תֵּ֛ת (têṯ)
Verb - Qal - Infinitive construct
Strong's 5414: To give, put, set

of the sanctuary
וְקֹ֥דֶשׁ (wə·qō·ḏeš)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 6944: A sacred place, thing, sanctity

and of the host
וְצָבָ֖א (wə·ṣā·ḇā)
Conjunctive waw | Noun - common singular
Strong's 6635: A mass of persons, reg, organized for, war, a campaign

to be trampled?”
מִרְמָֽס׃ (mir·mās)
Noun - masculine singular
Strong's 4823: Trampling place, trampling


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