John 7:12
New International Version
Among the crowds there was widespread whispering about him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others replied, “No, he deceives the people.”

New Living Translation
There was a lot of grumbling about him among the crowds. Some argued, “He’s a good man,” but others said, “He’s nothing but a fraud who deceives the people.”

English Standard Version
And there was much muttering about him among the people. While some said, “He is a good man,” others said, “No, he is leading the people astray.”

Berean Standard Bible
Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, “He is a good man.” But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.”

Berean Literal Bible
And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people."

King James Bible
And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.

New King James Version
And there was much complaining among the people concerning Him. Some said, “He is good”; others said, “No, on the contrary, He deceives the people.”

New American Standard Bible
And there was a great deal of talk about Him in secret among the crowds: some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He is misleading the people.”

NASB 1995
There was much grumbling among the crowds concerning Him; some were saying, “He is a good man"; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He leads the people astray.”

NASB 1977
And there was much grumbling among the multitudes concerning Him; some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He leads the multitude astray.”

Legacy Standard Bible
And there was much grumbling among the crowds concerning Him; some were saying, “He is a good man”; others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He leads the crowd astray.”

Amplified Bible
There was a lot of whispered discussion and murmuring among the crowds about Him. Some were saying, “He is a good man”; others said, “No, on the contrary, He misleads the people [giving them false ideas].”

Christian Standard Bible
And there was a lot of murmuring about him among the crowds. Some were saying, “He’s a good man.” Others were saying, “No, on the contrary, he’s deceiving the people.”

Holman Christian Standard Bible
And there was a lot of discussion about Him among the crowds. Some were saying, “He’s a good man.” Others were saying, “No, on the contrary, He’s deceiving the people.”

American Standard Version
And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.

Contemporary English Version
The crowds even got into an argument about him. Some were saying, "Jesus is a good man," while others were saying, "He is lying to everyone."

English Revised Version
And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him: some said, He is a good man; others said, Not so, but he leadeth the multitude astray.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
The crowds argued about Jesus. Some people said, "He's a good man," while others said, "No he isn't. He deceives the people."

Good News Translation
There was much whispering about him in the crowd. "He is a good man," some people said. "No," others said, "he fools the people."

International Standard Version
And there was a great deal of discussion about him among the crowds. Some were saying, "He is a good man," while others were saying, "No, he is deceiving the crowds!"

Majority Standard Bible
Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, “He is a good man.” But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.”

NET Bible
There was a lot of grumbling about him among the crowds. Some were saying, "He is a good man," but others, "He deceives the common people."

New Heart English Bible
There was much murmuring among the crowds concerning him. Some said, "He is a good man." But others said, "Not so, but he leads the crowd astray."

Webster's Bible Translation
And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, No; but he deceiveth the people.

Weymouth New Testament
Among the mass of the people there was much muttered debate about Him. Some said, "He is a good man." Others said, "Not so: he is imposing on the people."

World English Bible
There was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said, “He is a good man.” Others said, “Not so, but he leads the multitude astray.”
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And there was much murmuring about Him among the multitudes, some indeed said, “He is good”; and others said, “No, but He leads the multitude astray”;

Berean Literal Bible
And there was much murmuring about Him among the crowds. For some were saying, "He is good." But others were saying, "No, but He deceives the people."

Young's Literal Translation
and there was much murmuring about him among the multitudes, some indeed said -- 'He is good;' and others said, 'No, but he leadeth astray the multitude;'

Smith's Literal Translation
And much murmuring was for him in the crowds: some truly said, That he is good: and others said, No; but he deceives the crowd.
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
And there was much murmuring among the multitude concerning him. For some said: He is a good man. And others said: No, but he seduceth the people.

Catholic Public Domain Version
And there was much murmuring in the crowd concerning him. For certain ones were saying, “He is good.” But others were saying, “No, for he seduces the crowds.”

New American Bible
And there was considerable murmuring about him in the crowds. Some said, “He is a good man,” [while] others said, “No; on the contrary, he misleads the crowd.”

New Revised Standard Version
And there was considerable complaining about him among the crowds. While some were saying, “He is a good man,” others were saying, “No, he is deceiving the crowd.”
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him; for some said, He is good; and others said, No, but he just deceives the people.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And there was much murmuring in the crowd because of him, for there were those who said, “He is good”, and others were saying, “No, but he deceives the people.”
NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. Some said: He is a good man. Others said: No; but he deceives the multitude.

Godbey New Testament
And there was much murmuring in the crowd concerning Him: some indeed were saying, That He is good; others were saying, No, but He deceives the multitude.

Haweis New Testament
And there was a great murmur concerning him among the multitude: some said, Surely he is a good man: others said, No; he only deceiveth the people.

Mace New Testament
and the people were much divided about him: for some said, he is a good man: others said, not at all; but he seduces the people.

Weymouth New Testament
Among the mass of the people there was much muttered debate about Him. Some said, "He is a good man." Others said, "Not so: he is imposing on the people."

Worrell New Testament
And there was much murmuring about Him among the multitudes: some were saying, "He is a good Man;" others were saying, "Nay, but He is misleading the multitude."

Worsley New Testament
And there was much murmuring among the people concerning Him: for some said, He is a good man; others said, No: He deceiveth the people.

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Context
Jesus Teaches at the Feast
11So the Jews were looking for Him at the feast and asking, “Where is He?” 12 Many in the crowds were whispering about Him. Some said, “He is a good man.” But others replied, “No, He deceives the people.” 13Yet no one would speak publicly about Him for fear of the Jews.…

Cross References
Matthew 12:24
But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “Only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, does this man drive out demons.”

Mark 3:22
And the scribes who had come down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and, “By the prince of the demons He drives out demons.”

Luke 11:15
but some of them said, “It is by Beelzebul, the prince of the demons, that He drives out demons.”

John 9:16
Because of this, some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for He does not keep the Sabbath.” But others said, “How can a sinful man perform such signs?” And there was division among them.

John 10:19-21
Again there was division among the Jews because of Jesus’ message. / Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and insane. Why would you listen to Him?” / But others replied, “These are not the words of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

Matthew 16:13-14
When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, He questioned His disciples: “Who do people say the Son of Man is?” / They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

Mark 6:14-15
Now King Herod heard about this, for Jesus’ name had become well known, and people were saying, “John the Baptist has risen from the dead! That is why miraculous powers are at work in him.” / Others were saying, “He is Elijah,” and still others, “He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of old.”

Luke 7:16-17
A sense of awe swept over all of them, and they glorified God. “A great prophet has appeared among us!” they said. “God has visited His people!” / And the news about Jesus spread throughout Judea and all the surrounding region.

John 6:14
When the people saw the sign that Jesus had performed, they began to say, “Truly this is the Prophet who is to come into the world.”

John 6:41-42
At this, the Jews began to grumble about Jesus because He had said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” / They were asking, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then can He say, ‘I have come down from heaven?’”

John 6:52
At this, the Jews began to argue among themselves, “How can this man give us His flesh to eat?”

John 9:29
We know that God spoke to Moses, but we do not know where this man is from.”

John 12:42-43
Nevertheless, many of the leaders believed in Him. But because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, for fear that they would be put out of the synagogue. / For they loved praise from men more than praise from God.

Acts 14:4
The people of the city were divided. Some sided with the Jews, and others with the apostles.

Acts 28:22
But we consider your views worth hearing, because we know that people everywhere are speaking against this sect.”


Treasury of Scripture

And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, No; but he deceives the people.

murmuring.

John 7:32
The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.

John 9:16
Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.

Philippians 2:14
Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

some.

John 7:25-27,40-43
Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill? …

John 6:14
Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

John 9:16
Therefore said some of the Pharisees, This man is not of God, because he keepeth not the sabbath day. Others said, How can a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.

is a.

Luke 6:45
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Luke 18:19
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Luke 23:47,50
Now when the centurion saw what was done, he glorified God, saying, Certainly this was a righteous man…

deceiveth.

John 7:47,52
Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived? …

Matthew 27:63
Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

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John 7
1. Jesus reproves the ambition and boldness of his kinsmen;
10. goes up from Galilee to the feast of tabernacles;
14. teaches in the temple.
40. Various opinions of him among the people.
45. The Pharisees are angry that their officers took him not,
50. and chide with Nicodemus for taking his side.














And there was much murmuring
The Greek word for "murmuring" is "γογγυσμός" (goggysmos), which implies a low, indistinct, and often discontented muttering. This term is used to describe the secretive and often negative discussions among the people. Historically, murmuring was a common reaction among the Israelites during their wilderness journey, reflecting a lack of faith and trust in God's provision. In this context, it indicates a divided opinion about Jesus among the people, highlighting the tension and uncertainty surrounding His identity and mission.

among the crowds
The "crowds" or "multitudes" (Greek: "ὄχλος," ochlos) refer to the large groups of people gathered in Jerusalem for the Feast of Tabernacles. This feast was one of the major Jewish festivals, drawing people from various regions. The presence of such a diverse group underscores the widespread interest and varying perspectives on Jesus' teachings and miracles. It also reflects the socio-political climate of the time, where religious leaders were wary of any potential uprising or challenge to their authority.

concerning Him
The phrase "concerning Him" indicates that Jesus was the central topic of discussion. This focus on Jesus is consistent throughout the Gospels, where His actions, teachings, and identity provoke curiosity, debate, and division. Theologically, this highlights the pivotal role of Jesus in God's redemptive plan, as He becomes the focal point of human history and divine revelation.

Some were saying, 'He is a good man.'
The assertion "He is a good man" reflects a positive view of Jesus, recognizing His moral integrity and benevolent actions. The Greek word for "good" (ἀγαθός, agathos) implies not just moral goodness but also a beneficial and noble character. This perspective aligns with the accounts of Jesus' compassion, healing, and teaching, which drew many to follow Him. However, this view, while positive, falls short of recognizing His divine nature and messianic mission.

Others were saying, 'No, on the contrary, He deceives the people.'
The contrasting opinion that "He deceives the people" reveals the skepticism and suspicion some held towards Jesus. The Greek word for "deceives" (πλανάω, planaō) suggests leading astray or causing to wander. This accusation reflects the concerns of religious leaders who feared Jesus' influence and perceived Him as a threat to their authority. Historically, false prophets were a genuine concern in Jewish tradition, and this charge against Jesus indicates the deep division and controversy His ministry incited.

(12) And there was much murmuring among the people.--The original word for "people" is here, and here only in St. John, in the plural, and is best rendered by multitudes. It refers to the throngs of people assembled during the various parts of the ritual of the feast, and, perhaps, specially on the one hand to the Galilean multitude, some of whom had been present at the last great work recorded in this Gospel, and some of whom had been present at other works, and influenced by other teaching of Jesus and the Apostles; and on the other hand, to the Judaean multitude, who had been prevented from accepting Him in the same degree by the stronger influence of the hierarchy. Among these multitudes there arose, as before among the Jews and among the disciples (John 6:41; John 6:61), a murmuring; but the subject of this discussion is not His teaching, but His character. Their practical test-question was, Is He a good man, or a deceiver? (Comp. Matthew 27:63.) Some would think of deeds and words which established His goodness beyond all doubt; but if He is a good man, then His claim cannot be false. Others would think of deceivers, who had led away the multitude before (comp. Notes on Acts 5:36-37), and that He was one of them.

Verse 12. - And there was much murmuring among the multitudes concerning him. This vivid dramatic touch lifts a veil, and we see the eager excitement of those who fancied themselves duped, or who were at least disappointed by his non-appearance. Some said one thing, and some another. One group was loud in his praises, and another suspicious either of his orthodoxy or his patriotism, or both. Some said, He is a good man; i.e. one who was unselfish, kind, true, beneficent, and honest in his intentions, and one personally trustworthy. But others said - or, were saying; i.e. the murmur, the head shaking, of others was a flat denial of his ἀγάθοτης - Nay; but (on the other hand) he leadeth the multitude astray. The "multitude" in this clause is probably the vulgar crowd, and the contemptuous reference to them may be the language of the Jerusalem populace rather than the provincial caravans. The multitude would escape from the Pharisaic leading strings, should they embrace his views either concerning the sabbath or the expected Messiah.

Parallel Commentaries ...


Greek
Many
πολὺς (polys)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 4183: Much, many; often.

in
ἐν (en)
Preposition
Strong's 1722: In, on, among. A primary preposition denoting position, and instrumentality, i.e. A relation of rest; 'in, ' at, on, by, etc.

the
τοῖς (tois)
Article - Dative Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

crowds
ὄχλοις (ochlois)
Noun - Dative Masculine Plural
Strong's 3793: From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot.

were
ἦν (ēn)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1510: I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.

whispering
γογγυσμὸς (gongysmos)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 1112: Murmuring, grumbling. From gogguzo; a grumbling.

about
περὶ (peri)
Preposition
Strong's 4012: From the base of peran; properly, through, i.e. Around; figuratively with respect to; used in various applications, of place, cause or time.

Him.
αὐτοῦ (autou)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive Masculine 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 846: He, she, it, they, them, same. From the particle au; the reflexive pronoun self, used of the third person, and of the other persons.

Some
οἱ (hoi)
Article - Nominative Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

said,
ἔλεγον (elegon)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's 2036: Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say.

“He is
ἐστιν (estin)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1510: I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.

a good [man].”
Ἀγαθός (Agathos)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 18: A primary word; 'good'.

But
δὲ (de)
Conjunction
Strong's 1161: A primary particle; but, and, etc.

others
Ἄλλοι (Alloi)
Adjective - Nominative Masculine Plural
Strong's 243: Other, another (of more than two), different. A primary word; 'else, ' i.e. Different.

replied,
ἔλεγον (elegon)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 3rd Person Plural
Strong's 2036: Answer, bid, bring word, command. A primary verb; to speak or say.

“No,
Οὔ (Ou)
Adverb
Strong's 3756: No, not. Also ouk, and ouch a primary word; the absolute negative adverb; no or not.

He deceives
πλανᾷ (plana)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 4105: To lead astray, deceive, cause to wander. From plane; to roam.

the
τὸν (ton)
Article - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

people.”
ὄχλον (ochlon)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Singular
Strong's 3793: From a derivative of echo; a throng; by implication, the rabble; by extension, a class of people; figuratively, a riot.


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