Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version “If you are so numerous,” Joshua answered, “and if the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you, go up into the forest and clear land for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and Rephaites.” New Living Translation Joshua replied, “If there are so many of you, and if the hill country of Ephraim is not large enough for you, clear out land for yourselves in the forest where the Perizzites and Rephaites live.” English Standard Version And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up by yourselves to the forest, and there clear ground for yourselves in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Berean Standard Bible Joshua answered them, “If you have so many people that the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you, go to the forest and clear for yourself an area in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim.” King James Bible And Joshua answered them, If thou be a great people, then get thee up to the wood country, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee. New King James Version So Joshua answered them, “If you are a great people, then go up to the forest country and clear a place for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and the giants, since the mountains of Ephraim are too confined for you.” New American Standard Bible And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest and clear a place for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” NASB 1995 Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest and clear a place for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” NASB 1977 And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest and clear a place for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Legacy Standard Bible And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest and clear a place for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Amplified Bible Then Joshua replied, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest and clear ground for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Christian Standard Bible “If you have so many people,” Joshua replied to them, “go to the forest and clear an area for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, because Ephraim’s hill country is too small for you.” Holman Christian Standard Bible If you have so many people,” Joshua replied to them, “go to the forest and clear an area for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, because Ephraim’s hill country is too small for you.” American Standard Version And Joshua said unto them, If thou be a great people, get thee up to the forest, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim; since the hill-country of Ephraim is too narrow for thee. Contemporary English Version Joshua replied, "If there's not enough room for you in the hill country of Ephraim, then go into the forest that belonged to the Perizzites and the Rephaim. Clear out the trees and make more room for yourselves there." English Revised Version And Joshua said unto them, If thou be a great people, get thee up to the forest, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim; since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for thee. GOD'S WORD® Translation Joshua replied, "If there are so many of you, go into the forest! Clear ground for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and Rephaim if the mountains of Ephraim are too confining for you." Good News Translation Joshua answered, "If there are so many of you and the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you, then go into the forests and clear ground for yourselves in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim." International Standard Version So Joshua replied to them, "Since you're so numerous, go up to the forest and clear ground there for yourselves in the territory where the Perizzites and Rephaim are, because the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you." Majority Standard Bible Joshua answered them, ?If you have so many people that the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you, go to the forest and clear for yourself an area in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim.? NET Bible Joshua replied to them, "Since you have so many people, go up into the forest and clear out a place to live in the land of the Perizzites and Rephaites, for the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you." New Heart English Bible Joshua said to them, "If you are a great people, go up to the forest, and clear land for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim; since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you." Webster's Bible Translation And Joshua answered them, If thou art a great people, then go up to the wood, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim is too narrow for thee. World English Bible Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest, and clear land for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Literal Translations Literal Standard VersionAnd Joshua says to them, “If you [are] a numerous people, go up to the forest for yourself, then you have created [a place] for yourself there in the land of the Perizzite and of the Rephaim, when Mount Ephraim has been narrow for you.” Young's Literal Translation And Joshua saith unto them, 'If thou art a numerous people, go up for thee to the forest, then thou hast prepared for thee there, in the land of the Perizzite, and of the Rephaim, when mount Ephraim hath been narrow for thee.' Smith's Literal Translation And Joshua will say to them, If thou much people go up for thyself to the forest, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzite and of the Rephaims, if mount Ephraim was narrow to thee. Catholic Translations Douay-Rheims BibleAnd Josue said to them: If thou be a great people, go up into the woodland, and cut down room for thyself in the land of the Pherezite and the Raphaims: because the possession of mount Ephraim is too narrow for thee. Catholic Public Domain Version And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up into the forest, and cut out space for yourself in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, since the possession of mount Ephraim is too narrow for you.” New American Bible Joshua answered them, “If you are too many, go up to the forest and clear out a place for yourselves there in the land of the Perizzites and Rephaim, since the mountain regions of Ephraim are so narrow.” New Revised Standard Version And Joshua said to them, “If you are a numerous people, go up to the forest, and clear ground there for yourselves in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim, since the hill country of Ephraim is too narrow for you.” Translations from Aramaic Lamsa BibleJoshua said to them, If you are a numerous people, then go up on the side of the mountain, and choose for yourselves a portion in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim is too narrow for you. Peshitta Holy Bible Translated Yeshua Said to them: “If you are many people, go up yourselves to the side of the mountain and choose for yourselves there in the land of the Parizites and of the giants, because the Mountain of Aphreim is narrow for you” OT Translations JPS Tanakh 1917And Joshua said unto them: 'If thou be a great people, get thee up to the forest, and cut down for thyself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the Rephaim; since the hill-country of Ephraim is too narrow for thee.' Brenton Septuagint Translation And Joshua said to them, If thou be a great people, go up to the forest, and clear the land for thyself, If mount Ephraim be too little for thee. Additional Translations ... Audio Bible Context Manasseh's Inheritance…14Then the sons of Joseph said to Joshua, “Why have you given us only one portion as an inheritance? We have many people, because the LORD has blessed us abundantly.” 15Joshua answered them, “If you have so many people that the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you, go to the forest and clear for yourself an area in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim.” 16“The hill country is not enough for us,” they replied, “and all the Canaanites who live in the valley have iron chariots, both in Beth-shean with its towns and in the Valley of Jezreel.”… Cross References Numbers 32:1-5 Now the Reubenites and Gadites, who had very large herds and flocks, surveyed the lands of Jazer and Gilead, and they saw that the region was suitable for livestock. / So the Gadites and Reubenites came to Moses, Eleazar the priest, and the leaders of the congregation, and said, / “Ataroth, Dibon, Jazer, Nimrah, Heshbon, Elealeh, Sebam, Nebo, and Beon, ... Deuteronomy 3:12-17 So at that time we took possession of this land. To the Reubenites and Gadites I gave the land beyond Aroer along the Arnon Valley, and half the hill country of Gilead, along with its cities. / To the half-tribe of Manasseh I gave the rest of Gilead and all of Bashan, the kingdom of Og. (The entire region of Argob, the whole territory of Bashan, used to be called the land of the Rephaim.) / Jair, a descendant of Manasseh, took the whole region of Argob as far as the border of the Geshurites and Maacathites. He renamed Bashan after himself, Havvoth-jair, by which it is called to this day. ... Joshua 13:29-31 This is what Moses had given to the clans of the half-tribe of Manasseh, that is, to half the tribe of the descendants of Manasseh: / The territory from Mahanaim through all Bashan—all the kingdom of Og king of Bashan, including all the towns of Jair that are in Bashan, sixty cities; / half of Gilead; and Ashtaroth and Edrei, the royal cities of Og in Bashan. All this was for the clans of the descendants of Machir son of Manasseh, that is, half of the descendants of Machir. Judges 1:27-28 At that time Manasseh failed to drive out the inhabitants of Beth-shean, Taanach, Dor, Ibleam, Megiddo, and their villages; for the Canaanites were determined to dwell in that land. / When Israel became stronger, they pressed the Canaanites into forced labor, but they never drove them out completely. 1 Chronicles 5:23-26 Now the people of the half-tribe of Manasseh were numerous. They settled in the land from Bashan to Baal-hermon (that is, Senir, also known as Mount Hermon). / These were the heads of their families: Epher, Ishi, Eliel, Azriel, Jeremiah, Hodaviah, and Jahdiel. They were mighty men of valor, famous men, and heads of their families. / But they were unfaithful to the God of their fathers, and they prostituted themselves with the gods of the peoples of the land, whom God had destroyed before them. ... Genesis 48:17-19 When Joseph saw that his father had placed his right hand on Ephraim’s head, he was displeased and took his father’s hand to move it from Ephraim’s head to Manasseh’s. / “Not so, my father!” Joseph said. “This one is the firstborn; put your right hand on his head.” / But his father refused. “I know, my son, I know!” he said. “He too shall become a people, and he too shall be great; nevertheless, his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his offspring shall become a multitude of nations.” Deuteronomy 1:12-15 But how can I bear your troubles, burdens, and disputes all by myself? / Choose for yourselves wise, understanding, and respected men from each of your tribes, and I will appoint them as your leaders.” / And you answered me and said, “What you propose to do is good.” ... 1 Kings 4:7-19 Solomon had twelve governors over all Israel to provide food for the king and his household. Each one would arrange provisions for one month of the year, / and these were their names: Ben-hur in the hill country of Ephraim; / Ben-deker in Makaz, in Shaalbim, in Beth-shemesh, and in Elon-beth-hanan; ... 2 Kings 17:6 In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria captured Samaria and carried away the Israelites to Assyria, where he settled them in Halah, in Gozan by the Habor River, and in the cities of the Medes. 2 Chronicles 30:1-11 Then Hezekiah sent word throughout all Israel and Judah, and he also wrote letters to Ephraim and Manasseh inviting them to come to the house of the LORD in Jerusalem to keep the Passover of the LORD, the God of Israel. / For the king and his officials and the whole assembly in Jerusalem had decided to keep the Passover in the second month, / since they had been unable to keep it at the regular time, because not enough priests had consecrated themselves and the people had not been gathered in Jerusalem. ... Acts 7:14-16 Then Joseph sent for his father Jacob and all his relatives, seventy-five in all. / So Jacob went down to Egypt, where he and our fathers died. / Their bones were carried back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a price he paid in silver. Hebrews 11:21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff. Matthew 19:29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or fields for the sake of My name will receive a hundredfold and will inherit eternal life. Mark 10:29-30 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for My sake and for the gospel / will fail to receive a hundredfold in the present age—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and fields, along with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life. Luke 18:29-30 “Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God / will fail to receive many times more in this age—and in the age to come, eternal life.” Treasury of Scripture And Joshua answered them, If you be a great people, then get you up to the wood country, and cut down for yourself there in the land of the Perizzites and of the giants, if mount Ephraim be too narrow for you. If thou be Luke 12:48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. the Perizzites Genesis 13:7 And there was a strife between the herdmen of Abram's cattle and the herdmen of Lot's cattle: and the Canaanite and the Perizzite dwelled then in the land. Exodus 33:2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite: Ezra 9:1 Now when these things were done, the princes came to me, saying, The people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites, have not separated themselves from the people of the lands, doing according to their abominations, even of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians, and the Amorites. giants. Genesis 14:5 And in the fourteenth year came Chedorlaomer, and the kings that were with him, and smote the Rephaims in Ashteroth Karnaim, and the Zuzims in Ham, and the Emims in Shaveh Kiriathaim, Genesis 15:20 And the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, 2 Samuel 5:18,22 The Philistines also came and spread themselves in the valley of Rephaim… Jump to Previous Clear Clearing Country Cut Enough Ephraim Hill Hill-Country Joshua Mount Narrow Perizzites Per'izzites Rephaim Reph'aim Rephaites Small Thyself Wide Wood Woodlands YourselvesJump to Next Clear Clearing Country Cut Enough Ephraim Hill Hill-Country Joshua Mount Narrow Perizzites Per'izzites Rephaim Reph'aim Rephaites Small Thyself Wide Wood Woodlands YourselvesJoshua 17 1. The lot of Manasseh7. His coast 12. The Canaanites not driven out 14. The children of Joseph obtain another lot Joshua answered them Joshua, the leader of Israel after Moses, is addressing the descendants of Joseph, specifically the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh. His role as a leader is to guide and allocate the land among the tribes, ensuring fairness and adherence to God's commands. If you have so many people that the hill country of Ephraim is too small for you go to the forest and clear for yourself an area in the land of the Perizzites and the Rephaim Persons / Places / Events 1. JoshuaThe leader of Israel after Moses, tasked with leading the Israelites into the Promised Land and distributing the land among the tribes. 2. Tribe of Joseph Refers to the descendants of Joseph, specifically the tribes of Ephraim and Manasseh, who were given a portion of the Promised Land. 3. Perizzites and Rephaim Inhabitants of the land that the Israelites were to conquer. The Perizzites were a Canaanite tribe, while the Rephaim were a group of ancient people known for their size and strength. 4. Hill Country of Ephraim A region allocated to the tribe of Ephraim, part of the inheritance given to the descendants of Joseph. 5. Forest Land The area suggested by Joshua for the tribe of Joseph to clear and settle, indicating the need for effort and initiative in claiming their inheritance. Teaching Points Initiative and ResponsibilityJoshua's response to the tribe of Joseph highlights the importance of taking initiative and responsibility in fulfilling God's promises. We are called to actively participate in God's plans for our lives. Overcoming Obstacles The need to clear the forest land symbolizes overcoming obstacles. Believers are encouraged to face challenges with faith and determination, trusting in God's provision. Contentment and Gratitude The tribe's complaint about their land allocation serves as a reminder to be content and grateful for God's blessings, while also being willing to work for further growth. Faith in Action The directive to clear the land emphasizes that faith requires action. Believers must be willing to put in effort and labor to see God's promises come to fruition. Community and Cooperation The task of clearing the land would require cooperation among the tribe members, illustrating the importance of unity and working together in the body of Christ.Verse 15. - If thou be a great people. As though Joshua would say, "You are ready enough to boast, but unwilling to act. If your tribe be as large as you say it is, it is capable of taking care of itself. There is the vast forest of Central Palestine before you. Do not complain to me, but go and take possession of it." Get thee up into the wood country. The word "country" is not in the original, which is, strictly speaking, in the direction of the wood. Whether this be the "wood of Ephraim" mentioned in 2 Samuel 18:6 has been much disputed. For not only David is related to have crossed the Jordan, but Absalom also, in hot pursuit of his father (see 2 Samuel 17:22, 24). Neither army is mentioned as having recrossed the river; and it is a question whether it is more probable that there happened to be a "wood of Ephraim" on the other side of Jordan, or that Joab and Absalom, with their respective armies, recrossed Jordan without a word being said of the fact by the historian; the more especially as David (see 2 Samuel 19:15-17, 31) remained on the other side Jordan, while yet it was possible for the Ethiopian attendant, as well as Jonathan, to run to him with tidings of the defeat and death of Absalom. For the wood country in this neighbourhood cf. Psalm 132:6. Ewald would regard the language here as figurative, and the wood as referring to the powerful Phoenician tribes in the neighbourhood. He regards this answer as a sign of Joshua's "wit." But the interpretation seems far fetched and improbable. Cut down. Or, make a clearing, just as emigrants do now in the primeval forest. This wood, or forest, has now disappeared, though sufficient wood still remains to testify to the correctness of, the history. Perizzites and of the giants. The Rephaim (see notes on Joshua 3:10; 12:4). If Mount Ephraim be too narrow for thee. This fastness in the heart of the land, the refuge of Ehud, the dwelling place of Deborah, the early home of Samuel, was well adapted to purposes of secrecy and defence, but not so well suited for a place of habitation. Parallel Commentaries ... Hebrew Joshuaיְהוֹשֻׁ֗עַ (yə·hō·wō·šu·a‘) Noun - proper - masculine singular Strong's 3091: Joshua -- 'the LORD is salvation', Moses' successor, also the name of a number of Israelites answered וַיֹּ֨אמֶר (way·yō·mer) Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular Strong's 559: To utter, say them, אֲלֵיהֶ֜ם (’ă·lê·hem) Preposition | third person masculine plural Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to “If אִם־ (’im-) Conjunction Strong's 518: Lo!, whether?, if, although, Oh that!, when, not you אַתָּה֙ (’at·tāh) Pronoun - second person masculine singular Strong's 859: Thou and thee, ye and you have so many רַ֤ב (raḇ) Adjective - masculine singular Strong's 7227: Much, many, great people עַם־ (‘am-) Noun - masculine singular Strong's 5971: A people, a tribe, troops, attendants, a flock that כִּֽי־ (kî-) Conjunction Strong's 3588: A relative conjunction the hill country הַר־ (har-) Noun - masculine singular construct Strong's 2022: Mountain, hill, hill country of Ephraim אֶפְרָֽיִם׃ (’ep̄·rā·yim) Noun - proper - masculine singular Strong's 669: Ephraim -- a son of Joseph, also his descendants and their territory is too small אָ֥ץ (’āṣ) Verb - Qal - Perfect - third person masculine singular Strong's 213: To press, to be close, hurry, withdraw for you, לְךָ֖ (lə·ḵā) Preposition | second person masculine singular Strong's Hebrew go עֲלֵ֣ה (‘ă·lêh) Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular Strong's 5927: To ascend, in, actively to לְךָ֣ (lə·ḵā) Preposition | second person masculine singular Strong's Hebrew the forest הַיַּ֔עְרָה (hay·ya‘·rāh) Article | Noun - masculine singular | third person feminine singular Strong's 3293: A copse of bushes, a forest, honey in the comb and clear וּבֵרֵאתָ֤ (ū·ḇê·rê·ṯā) Conjunctive waw | Verb - Piel - Conjunctive perfect - second person masculine singular Strong's 1254: To create, to cut down, select, feed for yourself לְךָ֙ (lə·ḵā) Preposition | second person masculine singular Strong's Hebrew an area שָׁ֔ם (šām) Adverb Strong's 8033: There, then, thither in the land בְּאֶ֥רֶץ (bə·’e·reṣ) Preposition-b | Noun - feminine singular construct Strong's 776: Earth, land of the Perizzites הַפְּרִזִּ֖י (hap·pə·riz·zî) Article | Noun - proper - masculine singular Strong's 6522: Perizzite -- a people in the land of Canaan and the Rephaim.? וְהָֽרְפָאִ֑ים (wə·hā·rə·p̄ā·’îm) Conjunctive waw, Article | Noun - proper - masculine plural Strong's 7497: Rephaim -- inhabitants of an area East of the Jordan Links Joshua 17:15 NIVJoshua 17:15 NLT Joshua 17:15 ESV Joshua 17:15 NASB Joshua 17:15 KJV Joshua 17:15 BibleApps.com Joshua 17:15 Biblia Paralela Joshua 17:15 Chinese Bible Joshua 17:15 French Bible Joshua 17:15 Catholic Bible OT History: Joshua 17:15 Joshua said to them If you (Josh. 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