1 Thessalonians 3:4
New International Version
In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know.

New Living Translation
Even while we were with you, we warned you that troubles would soon come—and they did, as you well know.

English Standard Version
For when we were with you, we kept telling you beforehand that we were to suffer affliction, just as it has come to pass, and just as you know.

Berean Standard Bible
Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass.

Berean Literal Bible
And indeed, when we were with you, we were telling you beforehand that we are about to suffer affliction, just as also it came to pass, and you know.

King James Bible
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

New King James Version
For, in fact, we told you before when we were with you that we would suffer tribulation, just as it happened, and you know.

New American Standard Bible
For even when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it happened, as you know.

NASB 1995
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

NASB 1977
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

Legacy Standard Bible
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction, just as it happened and as you know.

Amplified Bible
For even when we were with you, we warned you plainly in advance that we were going to experience persecution; and so, as you know, it has come to pass.

Christian Standard Bible
In fact, when we were with you, we told you in advance that we were going to experience affliction, and as you know, it happened.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In fact, when we were with you, we told you previously that we were going to suffer persecution, and as you know, it happened.

American Standard Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Contemporary English Version
because when we were with you, we told you this would happen. And we did suffer, as you well know.

English Revised Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that's what happened.

Good News Translation
For while we were still with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to be persecuted; and as you well know, that is exactly what happened.

International Standard Version
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that is what happened.

Majority Standard Bible
Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass.

NET Bible
For in fact when we were with you, we were telling you in advance that we would suffer affliction, and so it has happened, as you well know.

New Heart English Bible
For truly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

Webster's Bible Translation
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Weymouth New Testament
For even when we were with you, we forewarned you, saying, "We are soon to suffer affliction;" and this actually happened, as you well know.

World English Bible
For most certainly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
for even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand that we are about to suffer tribulation, as it also came to pass, and you have known [it];

Berean Literal Bible
And indeed, when we were with you, we were telling you beforehand that we are about to suffer affliction, just as also it came to pass, and you know.

Young's Literal Translation
for even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand, that we are about to suffer tribulation, as also it did come to pass, and ye have known it;

Smith's Literal Translation
For also, when we were with you, we told you before that we were about to be pressed; as also it was, and ye know.
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
For even when we were with you, we foretold you that we should suffer tribulations, as also it is come to pass, and you know.

Catholic Public Domain Version
For even while we were with you, we predicted to you that we would suffer tribulations, even as it has happened, and as you know.

New American Bible
For even when we were among you, we used to warn you in advance that we would undergo affliction, just as has happened, as you know.

New Revised Standard Version
In fact, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we were to suffer persecution; so it turned out, as you know.
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
For verily when we were with you, we told you before, that we should suffer tribulations; even as it has come to pass, and as you know.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For also when we were with you, we said to you before that we would be persecuted, just as you know it happened.
NT Translations
Anderson New Testament
for even when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we were about to be afflicted, as it also came to pass, and as you know.

Godbey New Testament
For indeed, when we were with you, we foretold you that we are about to suffer tribulation; as indeed took place, and you know it.

Haweis New Testament
For when we were with you, we told you before that we were about to suffer tribulation; as also it came to pass, and ye know.

Mace New Testament
and even when we were with you, we foretold you, that we should be persecuted, as you know it happen'd.

Weymouth New Testament
For even when we were with you, we forewarned you, saying, "We are soon to suffer affliction;" and this actually happened, as you well know.

Worrell New Testament
For even when we were with you, we told you beforehand, "We are about to suffer tribulation"; even as also it came to pass, and ye know.

Worsley New Testament
For when we were with you, we told you before that we should be afflicted, as it came to pass, and ye know.

Additional Translations ...
Audio Bible



Context
Timothy's Visit
3so that none of you would be shaken by these trials. For you know that we are destined for this. 4 Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass. 5For this reason, when I could bear it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith, for fear that the tempter had somehow tempted you and caused our labor to be in vain.…

Cross References
Acts 14:22
strengthening the souls of the disciples and encouraging them to continue in the faith. “We must endure many hardships to enter the kingdom of God,” they said.

John 16:33
I have told you these things so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation. But take courage; I have overcome the world!”

2 Timothy 3:12
Indeed, all who desire to live godly lives in Christ Jesus will be persecuted,

Matthew 5:10-12
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. / Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. / Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets before you.

1 Peter 4:12-13
Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial that has come upon you, as though something strange were happening to you. / But rejoice that you share in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed at the revelation of His glory.

Romans 8:17
And if we are children, then we are heirs: heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ—if indeed we suffer with Him, so that we may also be glorified with Him.

Philippians 1:29-30
For it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for Him, / since you are encountering the same struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still have.

2 Corinthians 1:5-7
For just as the sufferings of Christ overflow to us, so also through Christ our comfort overflows. / If we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which accomplishes in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we experience. / And our hope for you is sure, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you will share in our comfort.

2 Thessalonians 1:4-5
That is why we boast among God’s churches about your perseverance and faith in the face of all the persecution and affliction you are enduring. / All this is clear evidence of God’s righteous judgment. And so you will be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering.

1 Peter 2:21
For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His footsteps:

Acts 9:16
I will show him how much he must suffer for My name.”

Matthew 10:22
You will be hated by everyone because of My name, but the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.

John 15:20
Remember the word that I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you as well; if they kept My word, they will keep yours as well.

2 Corinthians 4:8-10
We are hard pressed on all sides, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; / persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed. / We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.

Hebrews 12:3-4
Consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart. / In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.


Treasury of Scripture

For truly, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and you know.

we told.

John 16:1-3
These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended…

Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

even.

1 Thessalonians 2:2,14
But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention…

Acts 17:1,5-9,13
Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: …

2 Corinthians 8:1,2
Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; …

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1 Thessalonians 3
1. Paul testifies his great love to the Thessalonians,
5. partly by sending Timothy unto them to strengthen and comfort them;
7. partly by rejoicing in their well-doing;
10. and partly by praying for them, and desiring a safe coming unto them.














Indeed
The word "indeed" serves as an affirmation of the truth and certainty of the statement that follows. In Greek, the word used is "γάρ" (gar), which often functions to confirm or emphasize what has been previously stated. This word sets the tone for the verse, underscoring the reliability of the apostolic message and the forewarning given to the Thessalonians. It reflects the earnestness of Paul’s communication and the seriousness with which he approached his ministry.

when we were with you
This phrase highlights the personal and direct relationship Paul and his companions had with the Thessalonian believers. The Greek word "ὅτε" (hote) indicates a specific time in the past, emphasizing the personal presence and teaching of Paul. Historically, this refers to Paul’s missionary journey as recorded in Acts 17, where he spent time in Thessalonica establishing the church. This personal interaction underscores the authenticity and relational aspect of Paul’s ministry.

we kept warning you
The continuous action implied by "kept warning" is captured in the Greek verb "προλέγω" (prolego), meaning to foretell or predict. This indicates that Paul repeatedly informed the Thessalonians about the challenges they would face. The use of this verb suggests a pastoral concern, preparing the believers for the inevitable trials of faith. It reflects a shepherd’s heart, ensuring that the flock is not caught off guard by the adversities of following Christ.

that we would suffer persecution
The phrase "suffer persecution" is derived from the Greek "θλίβω" (thlibo), meaning to press or crush, often used metaphorically to describe affliction or distress. This reflects the reality of the early Christian experience, where believers frequently faced opposition and hardship for their faith. Historically, the Thessalonian church was no stranger to persecution, as seen in Acts 17:5-9. This phrase serves as a reminder of the cost of discipleship and the spiritual warfare inherent in the Christian journey.

And as you know
This phrase, "as you know," is a reminder of the Thessalonians' firsthand experience of the truth of Paul’s warnings. The Greek "καθὼς οἴδατε" (kathos oidate) implies a shared knowledge or common understanding. It reinforces the credibility of Paul’s message, as the Thessalonians themselves witnessed the fulfillment of his predictions. This shared experience strengthens the bond between Paul and the church, rooted in the reality of their shared trials.

it has come to pass
The phrase "it has come to pass" is a fulfillment statement, indicating that the predicted events have occurred. The Greek "ἐγένετο" (egeneto) is an aorist tense verb, denoting a completed action. This fulfillment of prophecy serves to validate Paul’s apostolic authority and the divine inspiration of his message. It also serves as an encouragement to the Thessalonians, affirming that their suffering is not in vain but part of God’s sovereign plan.

(4) For verily, when . . .--To appreciate the nature of the argument, see the passages referred to in the margin.

Verse 4. - For; assigning the reason why they should not be moved by these afflictions. Verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we; here also Christians in general. Should suffer. Not a simple future, but denoting that it was thus appointed in the counsels of God - that their tribulation was the result of the Divine purpose. Tribulation (affliction); even as it came to pass, and ye know; that is, from your own experience. The affliction, then, was not some strange thing which had befallen them.

Parallel Commentaries ...


Greek
Indeed,
γὰρ (gar)
Conjunction
Strong's 1063: For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason.

when
ὅτε (hote)
Adverb
Strong's 3753: When, at which time. From hos and te; at which too, i.e. When.

we were
ἦμεν (ēmen)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 1510: I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.

with
πρὸς (pros)
Preposition
Strong's 4314: To, towards, with. A strengthened form of pro; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. Toward.

you,
ὑμᾶς (hymas)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Accusative 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 4771: You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.

we kept warning you
προελέγομεν (proelegomen)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 4302: To tell (say) beforehand, forewarn, declare, tell plainly. From pro and lego; to say beforehand, i.e. Predict, forewarn.

that
ὅτι (hoti)
Conjunction
Strong's 3754: Neuter of hostis as conjunction; demonstrative, that; causative, because.

we would
μέλλομεν (mellomen)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 3195: A strengthened form of melo; to intend, i.e. Be about to be, do, or suffer something.

suffer persecution;
θλίβεσθαι (thlibesthai)
Verb - Present Infinitive Middle or Passive
Strong's 2346: (a) I make narrow (strictly: by pressure); I press upon, (b) I persecute, press hard. Akin to the base of tribos; to crowd.

and as
καθὼς (kathōs)
Adverb
Strong's 2531: According to the manner in which, in the degree that, just as, as. From kata and hos; just as, that.

you know,
οἴδατε (oidate)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 1492: To know, remember, appreciate.

it has come to pass.
ἐγένετο (egeneto)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Middle - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1096: A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be, i.e. to become, used with great latitude.


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