Judges 8:8
New International Version
From there he went up to Peniel and made the same request of them, but they answered as the men of Sukkoth had.

New Living Translation
From there Gideon went up to Peniel and again asked for food, but he got the same answer.

English Standard Version
And from there he went up to Penuel, and spoke to them in the same way, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

Berean Standard Bible
From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.

King James Bible
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.

New King James Version
Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke to them in the same way. And the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

New American Standard Bible
Then he went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

NASB 1995
He went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

NASB 1977
And he went up from there to Penuel, and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

Legacy Standard Bible
So he went up from there to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

Amplified Bible
He went from there up to Penuel and spoke similarly to them; and the men of Penuel answered him just as the men of Succoth had answered.

Christian Standard Bible
He went from there to Penuel and asked the same thing from them. The men of Penuel answered just as the men of Succoth had answered.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
He went from there to Penuel and asked the same thing from them. The men of Penuel answered just as the men of Succoth had answered.

American Standard Version
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

Contemporary English Version
After leaving Succoth, Gideon went to Penuel and asked the leaders there for some food. But he got the same answer as he did at Succoth.

English Revised Version
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spake unto them in like manner: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Then Gideon went to Penuel and asked the people there for the same help. But they gave him the same reply that the men of Succoth gave.

Good News Translation
Gideon went on to Penuel and made the same request of the people there, but the men of Penuel gave the same answer as the men of Sukkoth.

International Standard Version
Then he left there to go to Penuel and asked the same thing from them, but the men of Penuel responded the same way the men of Succoth did.

Majority Standard Bible
From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.

NET Bible
He went up from there to Penuel and made the same request. The men of Penuel responded the same way the men of Succoth had.

New Heart English Bible
He went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

Webster's Bible Translation
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.

World English Bible
He went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them in the same way; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.
Literal Translations
Literal Standard Version
And he goes up there [to] Penuel, and speaks to them thus; and the men of Penuel answer him as the men of Succoth answered.

Young's Literal Translation
And he goeth up thence to Penuel, and speaketh unto them thus; and the men of Penuel answer him as the men of Succoth answered.

Smith's Literal Translation
And he will go up from thence to Penuel, and he will say to them like this: and the men of Penuel will answer him as the men of Succoth answered.
Catholic Translations
Douay-Rheims Bible
And going up from thence, he came to Phanuel: and he spoke the like things to the men of that place. And they also answered him, as the men of Soccoth had answered.

Catholic Public Domain Version
And going up from there, he arrived at Penuel. And he spoke to the men of that place similarly. And they also answered him, just as the men of Succoth had answered.

New American Bible
He went up from there to Penuel and made the same request of them, but the people of Penuel answered him as had the people of Succoth.

New Revised Standard Version
From there he went up to Penuel, and made the same request of them; and the people of Penuel answered him as the people of Succoth had answered.
Translations from Aramaic
Lamsa Bible
And he went up from there to Penuel, and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.

Peshitta Holy Bible Translated
And he went up from there to Penuil, and as the men of Saquth answered him, so also the men of Penuil answered him
OT Translations
JPS Tanakh 1917
And he went up thence to Penuel, and spoke unto them in like manner; and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered.

Brenton Septuagint Translation
And he went up thence to Phanuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Phanuel answered him as the men of Socchoth had answered him.

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Context
Gideon Defeats Zebah and Zalmunna
7“Very well,” Gideon replied, “when the LORD has delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into my hand, I will tear your flesh with the thorns and briers of the wilderness!” 8From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth. 9So Gideon told the men of Penuel, “When I return in triumph, I will tear down this tower!”…

Cross References
Matthew 10:14
And if anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

Luke 9:5
If anyone does not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that town, as a testimony against them.”

Mark 6:11
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that place, as a testimony against them.”

Matthew 11:21-24
“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. / But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. / And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to heaven? No, you will be brought down to Hades! For if the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. ...

Luke 10:10-12
But if you enter a town and they do not welcome you, go into the streets and declare, / ‘Even the dust of your town that clings to our feet, we wipe off as a testimony against you. Yet be sure of this: The kingdom of God is near.’ / I tell you, it will be more bearable on that day for Sodom than for that town.

1 Samuel 25:10-11
But Nabal asked them, “Who is David? Who is this son of Jesse? Many servants these days are breaking away from their masters. / Why should I take my bread and water and the meat I have slaughtered for my shearers, and give them to these men whose origin I do not know?”

1 Kings 12:16
When all Israel saw that the king had refused to listen to them, they answered the king: “What portion do we have in David, and what inheritance in the son of Jesse? To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, O David!” So the Israelites went home,

2 Chronicles 10:16
When all Israel saw that the king had refused to listen to them, they answered the king: “What portion do we have in David, and what inheritance in the son of Jesse? To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, O David!” So all the Israelites went home,

Isaiah 53:3
He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief. Like one from whom men hide their faces, He was despised, and we esteemed Him not.

John 1:11
He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.

John 15:18-19
If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. / If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.

Acts 13:51
So they shook the dust off their feet in protest against them and went to Iconium.

Acts 18:6
But when they opposed and insulted him, he shook out his garments and told them, “Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.”

Nehemiah 4:1-3
Now when Sanballat heard that we were rebuilding the wall, he was furious and filled with indignation. He ridiculed the Jews / before his associates and the army of Samaria, saying, “What are these feeble Jews doing? Can they restore the wall by themselves? Will they offer sacrifices? Will they complete it in a day? Can they bring these burnt stones back to life from the mounds of rubble?” / Then Tobiah the Ammonite, who was beside him, said, “If even a fox were to climb up on what they are building, it would break down their wall of stones!”

Psalm 118:22
The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone.


Treasury of Scripture

And he went up there to Penuel, and spoke to them likewise: and the men of Penuel answered him as the men of Succoth had answered him.

Genesis 32:30,31
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved…

1 Kings 12:25
Then Jeroboam built Shechem in mount Ephraim, and dwelt therein; and went out from thence, and built Penuel.

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Judges 8
1. Gideon pacifies the Ephraimites
4. Succoth and Penuel refuse to deliver Gideon's army
10. Zebah and Zalmunna are taken
13. Succoth and Penuel are destroyed
17. Gideon revenges his brothers's death on Zebah and Zalmunna
22. He refuses government
24. His ephod the cause of idolatry
28. Midian subdued
29. Gideon's children, and death
33. The Israelites' idolatry and ingratitude














From there he went up to Penuel
The phrase "from there" indicates a continuation of Gideon's journey, emphasizing his relentless pursuit of the Midianite kings. "He went up" suggests an ascent, both geographically and spiritually, as Penuel was located in a hilly region. Penuel, meaning "face of God," holds historical significance as the place where Jacob wrestled with God (Genesis 32:30). This connection underscores the spiritual battle Gideon is engaged in, not just a physical one. The name Penuel reminds us of divine encounters and the transformative power of God's presence.

and asked the same from them
Gideon's request for provisions is a test of faith and allegiance. The repetition of his request highlights the consistency of his mission and the expectation of support from fellow Israelites. This phrase reflects the communal responsibility within the covenant community to support God's appointed leader. It challenges us to consider our own responses to God's call and the needs of His servants.

but the men of Penuel gave the same answer
The men of Penuel, like those of Succoth, respond with skepticism and fear. Their refusal to assist Gideon reveals a lack of faith and trust in God's deliverance. This phrase serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of spiritual complacency and the failure to recognize God's work. It invites reflection on our own faith and willingness to support God's purposes, even when the outcome is uncertain.

as the men of Succoth
The comparison to Succoth highlights a pattern of disbelief and disobedience among the Israelites. Succoth, meaning "booths" or "temporary shelters," symbolizes a transient faith that lacks depth and commitment. This phrase calls us to examine the stability of our own faith and challenges us to move beyond superficial belief to a deeper, more enduring trust in God.

(8) He went up thence to Penuel.--Penuel was also in the tribe of Gad, on the heights above the Jordan valley, on the southern bank of the Jabbok. The name means "face of God," from Jacob's vision (Genesis 32:30). It is again mentioned as a fortified town in 1Kings 12:25, but the site has not been identified.

Verse 8. - He went up thence to Penuel. When Jacob was returning from Padan-aram to Canaan he reached Penuel first, and Succoth afterwards (Genesis 32:30; Genesis 33:17). Gideon, travelling in the opposite direction from Canaan, naturally reaches Succoth first, and Penuel afterwards. Going from Succoth to Penuel too, he went up out of the Jordan valley towards the mountains on the east. Penuel appears to have been a place of importance, since Jeroboam repaired its fortifications with a view of retaining his hold on trans-Jordanic Israel (1 Kings 12:25). The tower here mentioned shows it was a strong place, but its exact situation is unknown.

Parallel Commentaries ...


Hebrew
From there
מִשָּׁם֙ (miš·šām)
Preposition-m | Adverb
Strong's 8033: There, then, thither

he went up
וַיַּ֤עַל (way·ya·‘al)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 5927: To ascend, in, actively

to Penuel
פְּנוּאֵ֔ל (pə·nū·’êl)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 6439: Penuel -- 'face of God', a place East of the Jordan, also two Israelites

and asked
וַיְדַבֵּ֥ר (way·ḏab·bêr)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Piel - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine singular
Strong's 1696: To arrange, to speak, to subdue

the same
כָּזֹ֑את (kā·zōṯ)
Preposition-k | Pronoun - feminine singular
Strong's 2063: Hereby in it, likewise, the one other, same, she, so much, such deed, that,

from them,
אֲלֵיהֶ֖ם (’ă·lê·hem)
Preposition | third person masculine plural
Strong's 413: Near, with, among, to

but the men
אַנְשֵׁ֣י (’an·šê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 376: A man as an individual, a male person

of Penuel
פְנוּאֵ֔ל (p̄ə·nū·’êl)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 6439: Penuel -- 'face of God', a place East of the Jordan, also two Israelites

gave the same response
וַיַּעֲנ֤וּ (way·ya·‘ă·nū)
Conjunctive waw | Verb - Qal - Consecutive imperfect - third person masculine plural
Strong's 6030: To answer, respond

as
כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר (ka·’ă·šer)
Preposition-k | Pronoun - relative
Strong's 834: Who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because, in order that

the men
אַנְשֵׁ֥י (’an·šê)
Noun - masculine plural construct
Strong's 376: A man as an individual, a male person

of Succoth.
סֻכּֽוֹת׃ (suk·kō·wṯ)
Noun - proper - feminine singular
Strong's 5523: Succoth -- a city East of the Jordan, also a place in Egypt


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