Job 8:11
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh? Do reeds flourish without water?
Does papyrus grow where there is no marsh?
Papyrus is a plant that thrives in wet, marshy environments, particularly in regions like Egypt and along the Nile River. In the context of Job, Bildad is using this imagery to illustrate the necessity of a proper environment for growth. The papyrus plant, known for its use in making ancient paper, symbolizes something that cannot exist without its essential conditions. This reflects the broader biblical theme that spiritual growth and righteousness require a foundation in God’s truth and presence. The rhetorical question implies that just as papyrus cannot grow without a marsh, a person cannot thrive spiritually without God.

Do reeds flourish without water?
Reeds, similar to papyrus, are dependent on water to survive and flourish. This imagery is used to emphasize the importance of sustenance and the right conditions for life. In biblical symbolism, water often represents life, cleansing, and the Holy Spirit. The question suggests that just as reeds need water, humans need spiritual nourishment to prosper. This can be connected to other scriptures, such as Psalm 1:3, which describes a righteous person as a tree planted by streams of water, yielding fruit in season. The implication is that spiritual vitality is contingent upon a relationship with God, much like the dependence of reeds on water.

Persons / Places / Events
1. Bildad the Shuhite
One of Job's three friends who comes to comfort him. In this chapter, Bildad is speaking, offering his perspective on Job's suffering and the nature of God's justice.

2. Job
A man described as blameless and upright, who fears God and shuns evil. He is undergoing severe trials and suffering, which prompts discussions with his friends about the reasons for his afflictions.

3. Papyrus and Reeds
These are plants that require a marshy, water-rich environment to grow. Bildad uses them as metaphors to illustrate the necessity of a proper foundation for growth and prosperity.
Teaching Points
The Necessity of a Strong Foundation
Just as papyrus and reeds need water to thrive, our spiritual lives require a foundation rooted in God's word and presence. Without this, we cannot flourish.

Dependence on God for Growth
Bildad's metaphor reminds us that true prosperity and growth come from being connected to God, much like plants need water. We must seek His guidance and sustenance daily.

The Role of Trials in Revealing Foundations
Bildad's words, though part of a misguided argument, can remind us that trials often reveal the strength of our spiritual foundations. Are we deeply rooted in faith, or are we easily swayed by circumstances?

Community and Accountability
Bildad's interaction with Job, though flawed, highlights the importance of community and accountability in our spiritual journey. We need others to remind us of God's truths, even if their perspectives are sometimes imperfect.
Bible Study Questions
1. How does Bildad's metaphor of papyrus and reeds relate to the importance of having a strong spiritual foundation in your life?

2. In what ways can you ensure that your spiritual "roots" are well-watered and nourished by God's word and presence?

3. Reflect on a time when a trial revealed the strength or weakness of your spiritual foundation. What did you learn from that experience?

4. How can you cultivate a community that encourages spiritual growth and accountability, similar to the role Bildad attempted to play for Job?

5. Consider the connections between Job 8:11 and other scriptures like Psalm 1 and Matthew 7:24-27. How do these passages collectively inform your understanding of spiritual growth and reliance on God?
Connections to Other Scriptures
Psalm 1
This passage contrasts the righteous, who are like trees planted by streams of water, with the wicked, who are like chaff blown away by the wind. It emphasizes the importance of being rooted in God's word for spiritual growth and stability.

Jeremiah 17:7-8
This scripture describes the blessed man who trusts in the Lord, likened to a tree planted by water, highlighting the theme of reliance on God for sustenance and growth.

Matthew 7:24-27
Jesus' parable of the wise and foolish builders underscores the importance of building one's life on the solid foundation of His teachings, akin to the necessity of water for the growth of papyrus and reeds.
A Sermon from a RushSpurgeon, Charles HaddonJob 8:11
Shall not the Judge of All... Do Right?E. Johnson Job 8:1-22
The Hypocrite's HopeR. Green Job 8:8-19
The Rush and the PapryusW.F. Adeney Job 8:11, 12
People
Bildad, Job
Places
Uz
Topics
Flag, Flourish, Grass, Grow, Increase, Marsh, Mire, Papyrus, Pride, Reed, Reed-grass, Reeds, River-plant, Rush, Rushes, Shoot, Tall, Thrive, Wet, Wise
Dictionary of Bible Themes
Job 8:11

     4402   plants
     4502   reed

Job 8:11-12

     4819   dryness

Job 8:11-13

     4460   grass
     4494   papyrus
     8764   forgetting God

Job 8:11-19

     4504   roots
     4938   fate, final destiny
     6169   godlessness

Library
Two Kinds of Hope
'Whose hope shall be cut off, and whose trust shall be a spider's web.'--JOB viii. 14. 'And hope maketh not ashamed.'--ROMANS v. 5. These two texts take opposite sides. Bildad was not the wisest of Job's friends, and he gives utterance to solemn commonplaces with partial truth in them. In the rough it is true that the hope of the ungodly perishes, and the limits of the truth are concealed by the splendour of the imagery and the perfection of artistic form in which the well-worn platitude is draped.
Alexander Maclaren—Expositions of Holy Scripture

The Beginning, Increase, and End of the Divine Life
Now, the utterances of Bildad, and of the other two men who came to comfort Job, but who made his wounds tingle, are not to be accepted as being inspired. They spake as men--as mere men. They reasoned no doubt in their own esteem logically enough; but the Spirit of God was not with hem in their speech, therefore with regard to any sentiment which we find uttered by these men, we must use our own judgment; and if it be not in consonance with the rest of Holy Scriptures, it will be our bounden duty
Charles Haddon Spurgeon—Spurgeon's Sermons Volume 6: 1860

Whether all Merits and Demerits, One's Own as Well as those of Others, Will be Seen by Anyone at a Single Glance?
Objection 1: It would seem that not all merits and demerits, one's own as well as those of others, will be seen by anyone at a single glance. For things considered singly are not seen at one glance. Now the damned will consider their sins singly and will bewail them, wherefore they say (Wis. 5:8): "What hath pride profited us?" Therefore they will not see them all at a glance. Objection 2: Further, the Philosopher says (Topic. ii) that "we do not arrive at understanding several things at the same
Saint Thomas Aquinas—Summa Theologica

The Hebrew Sages and their Proverbs
[Sidenote: Role of the sages in Israel's life] In the days of Jeremiah and Ezekiel (Jer. xviii. 18; Ezek. vii. 26) three distinct classes of religious teachers were recognized by the people: the prophets, the priests, and the wise men or sages. From their lips and pens have come practically all the writings of the Old Testament. Of these three classes the wise men or sages are far less prominent or well known. They wrote no history of Israel, they preached no public sermons, nor do they appear
Charles Foster Kent—The Origin & Permanent Value of the Old Testament

The Eternity and Unchangeableness of God.
Exod. iii. 14.--"I AM THAT I AM."--Psal. xc. 2.--"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting thou art God."--Job xi. 7-9.--"Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection? It is as high as heaven; what canst thou do? deeper than hell; what canst thou know? The measure thereof is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea." This is the chief point of saving knowledge,
Hugh Binning—The Works of the Rev. Hugh Binning

Instruction for the Ignorant:
BEING A SALVE TO CURE THAT GREAT WANT OF KNOWLEDGE, WHICH SO MUCH REIGNS BOTH IN YOUNG AND OLD. PREPARED AND PRESENTED TO THEM IN A PLAIN AND EASY DIALOGUE, FITTED TO THE CAPACITY OF THE WEAKEST. 'My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.'--Hosea 4:6 ADVERTISEMENT BY THE EDITOR. This little catechism is upon a plan perfectly new and unique. It was first published as a pocket volume in 1675, and has been republished in every collection of the author's works; and recently in a separate tract.
John Bunyan—The Works of John Bunyan Volumes 1-3

Job
The book of Job is one of the great masterpieces of the world's literature, if not indeed the greatest. The author was a man of superb literary genius, and of rich, daring, and original mind. The problem with which he deals is one of inexhaustible interest, and his treatment of it is everywhere characterized by a psychological insight, an intellectual courage, and a fertility and brilliance of resource which are nothing less than astonishing. Opinion has been divided as to how the book should be
John Edgar McFadyen—Introduction to the Old Testament

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